Wait are all retired firetrucks stupidly cheap

"MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s" (mastermario) 09/19/2019 at 15:11 • Filed to: really completely unnecessary shopping

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$2500 only

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:18

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yes, they’re super cheap

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:18

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Apparently that answer is “ yes, yes they are”

$19k for a HELL of a lot of truck

https://racine.craigslist.org/hvo/d/racine-quint-fire-ladder-truck/6932403772.html

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:21

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I haven’t checked the price tag on the retired fire truck C-series for sale in my town. Maybe I should.

It has the advantage (?) of having had the bed works more or less removed, so it would arguably be a great conversion for toy hauling.

Future next gen S2000 owner > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:24

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Limited life span and limited resale market. Makes sense 2nd hand would be cheap. Gotta get them low enough to offload.

jimz > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:24

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Don’t see why they wouldn’t be cheap; they’re obsolete for their original purpose and aren’t good for much else.

and “ew” to the split rims. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:27

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Shit if you were a bit successful you could just buy that for your kids to play in. Imagine setting it up to climb into a tree house! 

Alfalfa > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:27

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Many of them are. I have a strange fetish for old work trucks, especially fire trucks. I look at them a lot. I'll probably end up getting an old wrecker if anything though, then I can at least justify ownership with some usefulness.

shop-teacher > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:27

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Yeah, they are really cheap. There's a very small market for old fire trucks.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 09/19/2019 at 15:29

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For the kids? I want that for myself

lone_liberal > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:30

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They are loud and too large to take to the cruise-in for onion rings. The only people who collect them are firefighters so demand is probably pretty low.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > jimz 09/19/2019 at 15:30

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Yea, I’ve heard stories about split rims

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:30

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Ye s they are huge, limited resale, and once out of certification useless for their original purpose

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:31

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Well of course it is REALLY for us, all the toys are. 

E90M3 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:31

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Some alumni from my school have one to tailgate with ; I’ve heard insurance is not cheap.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Alfalfa 09/19/2019 at 15:32

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Yea, I have a thing for old work trucks too.

I’d love to find something like this someday

ranwhenparked > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:38

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Mostly, yes. Limited market for them. But, they are overbuilt and usually meticulously maintained. 

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:39

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It wouldn’t surprise me. Used ambulances are also surprisingly cheap. They’re also vehicles that are usually maintained to a pretty high degree, although idle time is probably as important as mileage in evaluating these. I think the pricing probably has something to do with the bodies and equipment being so specific for their indented application that they don’t have a lot of other commercial applications they’re especially well suited for.

The other thing is that a lot of these chassis have super, super short gearing in them (moving heavily loaded, shorter distances, with constant slowing and accelerating from clearing intersections while running code ). That kind of gearing is going to be miserably expensive to run trying to re-purpose the truck as a water hauler over-the-road without re-gearing the truck. All that red body work is also a bunch of useless weight and given away payload to run around with.

I’ve got this idea to someday day pick up a large, used ambulance built on a medium duty truck chassis as a tow vehicle and track-side camping rig. The theory being RV’s and travel trailers are built like crap. An ambulance is actually a rugged, strong box that is already sealed, insulated, climate controlled, plumbed and wired. They even have a nice, DOT approved storage cabinet for a high pressure cylinder to power all the air tools without messing around with a compressor at the track.

The idea would be to make a camping solution out of the back, and tow an enclosed trailer with the racecar and equipment behind it. Part of the calculation would have to be planning on throwing away the rear axle and swapping one in with tall enough gears for extended interstate speeds a fewer than on the rev limited RPMs.

Michael > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:42

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Gotta clean the gutters, brb

PartyPooper2012 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 15:44

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how complex is that bed with water plumbing? Can it be hacked off and a flat bed attached instead? 

Michael > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 09/19/2019 at 15:47

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So, this basically

https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/ctd/d/jordan-2002-international-new-body/6979539532.html

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 09/19/2019 at 15:48

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I’ve had a similar camper idea for an ambulance but with a twist. I’ve thought about finding a 4x4 ambulance and then building it into an overland rig. The short gearing would actually be preferred in that case so going to bigger tires would be easier.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > E90M3 09/19/2019 at 15:49

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The insurance thing is weird though...why would they be more expensive than any other old collector vehicle?

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > PartyPooper2012 09/19/2019 at 15:50

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That’s kind of what I’m thinking too...taking off that body couldn’t be THAT hard. 

E90M3 > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 16:00

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Not really sure, don’t know all the details   

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 16:07

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Yeah they are  https://oppositelock.kinja.com/who-wants-a-firetruck-1710772805

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Michael 09/19/2019 at 16:14

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Yes.

jimz > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 16:24

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they’re still commercial vehicles and may have to be registered as one and require you to have a commercial driver’s license to operate. 

jimz > lone_liberal 09/19/2019 at 16:25

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I know a guy who has a couple, but he owns an ice cream/coffee shop and built in a garage to store them.  I think he uses the trucks for stuff like parades and local events. 

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > jimz 09/19/2019 at 16:31

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I know you don’t need a CDL for anything if it’s just for personal use (‘Merica)

I’ve never heard about there being a different registration for commercial vehicles, but I imagine it’s similar to the CDL thing. Once it’s no longer being used for commercial purposes those requirements don’t apply.

Kiltedpadre > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 16:58

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Yes, even relatively new ones hold so little value that large departments either donate them to smaller departments or are happy to get anything for them at surplus equipment auctions.

I know someone that buys a truck or two per year and makes decent extra money breaking the trucks down for scrap. A few pieces he sells on eBay, but mainly the brass and aluminum are worth the time to strip one for him.

Kiltedpadre > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 17:02

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It’s much more expensive but just look at this thing!

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/florence-ahrens-fox-fire-truck-for-sale/6973394034.html

Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 09/19/2019 at 23:02

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Yes